Today Annie is in conversation with an old mate, Joe Swift, garden designer and TV presenter. He's had a great design career, democratising the business with his modular gardens, and working with the charity Horatio's Garden, developing a garden for spinal injury patients. He talks about gardens he's made, his TV work, Chelsea Gardens, meeting the Queen on one of her last public appearances, and his latest personal garden, down near Bridport in Dorset.
Lots of laughs as he and Annie rake over their professional pasts.
Viewers outside Britain should be aware that any references to the Daily Mail newspaper are ironic.
There’s plenty to listen to here, but to get the full experience we suggest you turn to our You Tube channel to see images of Jo’s gardens.
https://www.horatiosgarden.org.uk/
Joe's own You Tube channel tells the story of his new garden: https://www.youtube.com/@JoesCountryGarden
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